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Roth Conversion Planning for Los Angeles County Pre-Retirees

Why a conversion is a multi-year modeling decision rather than a single transaction, and what California adds to the calculation.

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— The Direct Answer —
A Roth conversion moves money from a pre-tax retirement account into a Roth account and creates ordinary income in the year it happens. That single fact is why it is a planning decision rather than a transaction: the income it adds interacts with your federal bracket, your California bracket, Medicare premium tiers two years later, and the taxation of Social Security. For Los Angeles County households, the question is rarely whether to convert. It is how much, in which years, and against which thresholds.
— Lindahl Lucas, Founder · Avinci Wealth Management, Inc. —

What to know up front

  • Conversions are taxable in the year of conversion and, since 2018, cannot be reversed or recharacterized.
  • Contribution income limits do not apply to conversions, which is why the strategy is available to higher earners.
  • The 2025 federal tax act made the current individual rate structure permanent, which removed the scheduled sunset that previously drove conversion urgency.
  • California taxes converted amounts as ordinary income with no preferential treatment, so the state consequence has to be modeled alongside the federal one.
  • Nothing here is individualized tax advice. Any conversion should be reviewed with your CPA before it is executed.

What a conversion actually does

Investment advisory services described on this page are offered through Avinci Wealth Management, Inc., a Registered Investment Adviser registered in California, Arizona, Illinois, Texas, and Nevada. Avinci does not provide tax or legal advice and does not prepare tax returns. Roth conversions create an immediate tax liability in the year of conversion, tax law is subject to change, and any conversion strategy carries risk and should be reviewed with your CPA before it is acted on.

A traditional IRA or 401(k) holds money that has never been taxed. You took a deduction going in, the balance grew tax deferred, and the tax is owed when it comes out. A Roth account holds money that has already been taxed, and qualified withdrawals come out tax free, including the growth, provided the distribution meets the applicable IRS requirements.

A conversion moves a chosen amount from the first category to the second and settles the tax bill on that amount now, at this year's rates, rather than later at whatever rates apply then. It is not a way to avoid tax. It is a way to choose the year in which the tax is paid, which is a different and narrower proposition.

Two mechanical points shape everything that follows. The income limits that restrict direct Roth contributions do not apply to conversions, so the strategy remains available to households whose income rules out contributing. And since 2018 a conversion cannot be undone. There is no recharacterization, no second look in April. Whatever is converted stays converted, which is precisely why the modeling belongs before the transaction rather than after it.

A conversion does not reduce tax. It relocates the year in which tax is paid, and that only helps if the year is well chosen.

The pre-RMD window

Most households pass through a stretch of comparatively low taxable income between the end of employment and the start of required minimum distributions. Wages have stopped, Social Security may not have been claimed yet, and the pre-tax balances are still growing untouched. Required minimum distributions currently begin at age 73 under present law, rising to 75 later in the next decade, so for many people that window runs several years.

The planning logic is straightforward. Income drawn deliberately during those lower-income years is taxed at the rates that apply then, and every dollar converted is a dollar that will not be forced out later as a required distribution taxed on top of Social Security and any other income. Left alone, a large pre-tax balance can produce distributions that land in a higher bracket than the household ever occupied while working.

What the window does not do is make conversion automatically correct. It makes it worth modeling. Whether a given household benefits depends on the balance, the expected future income, whether the tax can be paid from funds outside the account, and how long the converted money will sit before it is needed.

What a conversion touches

The reason conversion planning belongs in the same room as the rest of the retirement plan is that the added income does not stay in one place. It moves through several systems at once, each with its own thresholds and its own timing.

Systems affected by conversion income
SystemHow conversion income affects itWhen the effect lands
Federal bracketConverted amounts are ordinary income and can push the household into a higher marginal bandThe year of conversion
California income taxTaxed as ordinary income at state rates, with no preferential treatment for conversionsThe year of conversion
Medicare premiumsHigher modified adjusted gross income can move the household into a higher IRMAA tierTwo years after the conversion year
Social Security taxationAdditional income can increase the share of benefits subject to taxThe year of conversion, once benefits have started
Capital gains rateOrdinary income stacks beneath long-term gains and can push them into a higher rate bandThe year of conversion
Income-tested deductionsDeductions and credits that phase out with income can be reduced or lostThe year of conversion

Thresholds and dollar amounts in each of these systems change and are indexed annually. Confirm current-year figures with your CPA rather than relying on any published table.

The Medicare row is the one households are most often surprised by, because the effect is delayed. Premium tiers are set from income reported two years earlier, so a conversion executed now can raise a premium bill that arrives well after the decision feels settled. That is not a reason to avoid converting. It is a reason to know the number before you act.

The 2025 federal tax act changed the backdrop by making the current individual rate structure permanent, which removed the scheduled sunset that had been driving a great deal of conversion urgency. It also added a temporary deduction for taxpayers age 65 and older that phases out as income rises. Because a conversion raises income, it can reduce or eliminate that deduction, so the deduction should not be read as shelter for conversion income. Both points are worth confirming against current law with your CPA, since tax legislation continues to move.

What California adds

California treats the converted amount as ordinary income and offers no preferential rate for it. State marginal rates run into the double digits at the top of the schedule, with an additional surcharge applying above a high income threshold, so for a Los Angeles County household the combined federal and state consequence of a large single-year conversion can be meaningfully different from the federal figure alone.

That arithmetic tends to push toward spreading conversions across several years rather than executing one large one, because filling the lower portion of a bracket in each of several years produces a different combined result from crossing into the top of the schedule once. Whether that holds for a given household is exactly what a projection is for.

Residency is the other California-specific variable. Households planning to relocate to a state with no income tax sometimes ask whether conversions should wait until after the move. The answer depends on the facts of the move, on when residency actually changes for tax purposes, and on the source rules that apply. It is a question for your CPA and, where the move is complex, your attorney. It should not be assumed either way.

Many households in the county hold large balances in employer plans from long careers in aerospace, entertainment, healthcare, and technology. Where those balances are still inside a workplace plan, the plan document itself governs what rollovers and in-plan conversions are permitted, and that constraint has to be read before a schedule is built rather than after.

When a conversion may not fit

Conversion planning gets discussed as though the answer is usually yes. It is not. Several circumstances argue against converting, or against converting now, and a firm that never raises them is not modeling carefully.

  • The household is currently in a high bracket and expects a lower one later, which inverts the entire logic.
  • There are no funds outside the retirement account to pay the tax, so the conversion would be partly consumed by its own tax bill.
  • The converted money is likely to be needed soon, leaving little time for tax-free growth to matter.
  • The household is close to a threshold where added income would trigger a disproportionate effect elsewhere, such as a Medicare tier or a phase-out.
  • Charitable intent is significant, since pre-tax balances can be well suited to qualified charitable distributions or to a charitable beneficiary designation.
  • Heirs are expected to be in lower brackets than the account owner, which changes the comparison.

How to evaluate an advisor

Verification first. Look the firm up by CRD number through the SEC adviser search or FINRA BrokerCheck, and read the Form ADV Part 2A brochure for services, compensation, and conflicts. Then ask the questions that reveal how the work is actually done.

  • Which of your services carry a fiduciary duty and which do not? Ask for that in writing.
  • Do you model conversions across multiple years, or evaluate a single year at a time?
  • Which thresholds does your projection account for, and how do you handle the two-year Medicare lag?
  • Do you model the California consequence alongside the federal one, or separately?
  • How do you coordinate with my CPA, and at what point in the year does that conversation happen?
  • How is the firm compensated, itemized by service line?
  • What would make you recommend against converting?

That last question is often the most revealing. A conversion is a decision with real downside cases, and an advisor who can describe the circumstances under which they would advise against it is describing a process rather than a product.

How Avinci approaches it

Avinci Wealth Management is a Registered Investment Adviser registered in California, Arizona, Illinois, Texas, and Nevada, firm CRD #327780, with offices in Santa Clarita, Beverly Hills, and Woodland Hills. Insurance and annuity products are placed through our affiliate, Lucas Insurance Services, which earns commissions on the products it places, and that relationship is disclosed in our client agreements.

Conversion work here is modeling rather than execution of your tax filings. We build multi-year projections of income, bracket placement, and the thresholds listed above, using specialized income and tax modeling software including independent third-party platforms such as Income Lab, so a proposed schedule can be examined year by year before anything is converted. Those projections are then reviewed with your CPA, who prepares and signs the return.

Income Lab is independent third-party software and is named here for description only. Its inclusion is not an endorsement, and no compensation is paid or received in connection with the reference. Projections generated by any modeling platform are hypothetical and illustrative, rest on assumptions and on the accuracy of the inputs supplied, are subject to the underlying algorithmic methodology, and do not guarantee future results.

Conversion timing is one input among several in The Retirement Blueprint, the documented four-step process that produces a single plan document covering investments, tax, income, insurance, and estate coordination. Because a conversion changes the tax character of assets that will eventually pass to heirs, it is examined alongside beneficiary designations rather than in isolation. Multi-year tax planning and withdrawal sequencing are handled by the same team that manages the portfolio.

Important disclosures. This material is for informational purposes only and should not be construed as individualized investment, tax, or legal advice, or as a recommendation to buy or sell any security or insurance product. Consult your CPA or attorney before acting on any strategy described here.

Registration. Investment advisory services are offered through Avinci Wealth Management, Inc., a Registered Investment Adviser, firm CRD #327780, registered in California, Arizona, Illinois, Texas, and Nevada. Registration as an investment adviser does not imply a certain level of skill or training. Our Form ADV Part 2A brochure describes our services, fees, and conflicts of interest, and is available on request and through our IAPD record.

Tax law. Tax rules, rates, brackets, and income thresholds change and are indexed annually, and the descriptions here are general. Nothing on this page is a prediction about future tax policy or a recommendation to convert. Confirm current-year figures and your own circumstances with your CPA.

Roth conversions. A conversion creates an immediate tax liability in the year of conversion, cannot be reversed, and may affect Medicare premiums, the taxation of Social Security benefits, and income-tested deductions. Qualified tax-free treatment of Roth withdrawals depends on meeting applicable IRS requirements, including holding-period rules.

Projections. Financial projections and retirement models described here are hypothetical and illustrative in nature, are based on assumptions provided by the client and on market data, and do not guarantee future results.

Insurance and risk. Insurance and annuity products are offered through our affiliate, Lucas Insurance Services, which earns commissions on products it places. This is a conflict of interest and is disclosed in our Form ADV. Guarantees associated with annuity and insurance contracts are subject to the claims-paying ability of the issuing carrier. Investments involve risk and, unless otherwise stated, are not guaranteed. Past performance is not indicative of future results.

— Common Questions —

Questions about Roth conversions

Can I reverse a Roth conversion if I change my mind?
No. Recharacterization of a conversion was eliminated in 2018, so once funds move from a traditional account into a Roth the transaction is permanent. That is the main reason modeling belongs before execution rather than after. Review any proposed conversion with your CPA while it is still hypothetical.
How does a Roth conversion affect my Medicare premiums?
Medicare Part B and Part D premiums are means tested through the income-related monthly adjustment amount, which is set from modified adjusted gross income reported two years earlier. Because a conversion raises that income, it can move the household into a higher premium tier two years later. Coordinated planning models the conversion amount against the current tier thresholds before the conversion happens.
Are Roth conversions taxed differently in California?
California treats a converted amount as ordinary income at state rates and gives it no preferential treatment. For a Los Angeles County household this means the combined federal and state consequence of a single large conversion can differ meaningfully from the federal figure alone, which is why multi-year modeling matters here. Confirm current-year state brackets with your CPA.
What is the five-year rule for Roth conversions?
Each conversion starts its own five-year holding period before the converted amount can be withdrawn without a penalty on that portion, and a separate five-year rule governs tax-free treatment of earnings. Age matters as well, since the penalty rules differ once you are past 59 and a half. The interaction is genuinely intricate, so confirm the treatment of your specific accounts with a tax professional.
When is the deadline for a conversion in a given tax year?
A conversion counts for the tax year in which it is completed, so it must be done by December 31 rather than by the filing deadline in April. Because year-end is also when custodians and plan administrators are busiest, and because withholding and estimated payments may need adjusting, planning the amount earlier in the year leaves room to model scenarios properly.
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